In other religions (healthy ones anyway) people are invited to others' homes for friendly association because they like you. It's not done for any ulterior motive, or to get you to do or not do something. And it's done whether or not you decide to continue attending services.
Mrs. Fiorini
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JW "get-togethers" weird
by Iwonder17 ini was brought up in the truth and have always found itstrange that people will invite ones that have "fallen away" over to their house for dinner etc with the hopes that that will bring them back in to the truth.. is it just me, or is this thinking weird???
do any other religions thinks that if a member of their church stps going, that all they need to do if have a bbq and the person will start going to church again???.
don't get me wrong, i understand the "encouragement" part of it, but i think that it is a weak gesture as well as i think that it is such a crappy "rule" that if someone doesn't respond to things like this, then they just drop them altogether.. i know a father whose son is not a jw, and he just chooses to have nothing to do with him.
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End of days indoctrination
by m0nk3y inok this is like the first new topic i have added in .. forever ..
it would seem that despite all of the research i have done in the past that i have this unshakable fear of this economic crisis fulfilling bible prophecy.
i thought that i had worked through all of these demons, i thought that this was a past nightmare that would no longer effect me.
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Mrs. Fiorini
One of the attractions of groups like the WT is that they claim to have very certain answers to all of life's uncertainties. It is natural, when facing those uncertainties, to want to see a world where everything is happening for a predetermined reason, and that it is all somehow under control. As former JWs, we no longer have that false confidence to help us deal with problems that occur. Maybe this can lead to irrational fears connected to our old JW mindset? Or, maybe I'm just practicing psychology without a license! LOL. I just remind myself that the Great Depression did not bring Armageddon either.
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Have JW's been given instructions on subliminal pictures
by art inhad a jw come to my door and gave me an invite to an assembly, awhile back.
i told her i used to go to the meetings.
she said ok, i will probably see you at the assembly.
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Mrs. Fiorini
I am unaware of subliminal pictures in WT literature. Can someone enlighten me please?
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Mrs. Fiorini
I don't know if the Mormons qualify as pagans or not. But when I was a kid we went on a family vacation to Utah. When we were in Salt Lake City, one of the stops on the agenda was Temple Square. We went because it was part of Utah history and was set up for tourists. Kind of weird really, since we never did go see Bethel. We were from the west coast and you could drive to Utah a lot easier than to New York.
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exjw related counselor thoughts?
by Ronnie38 inthis thread is actually not for me, but for others who have recently broke free from the jw org.. does anyone happen to know of good exit counselors out there for the witnesses??.
i was trying to get a list of a few, so any thoughts are appreciated.. .
ron.
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Mrs. Fiorini
Steven Hassen is a well know cult expert and counselor. He has written a couple of books that are very good on the subject. His first is "Combatting Cult Mind Control" and his most recent is "Releasing the Bonds." He has some good resources listed in the back of them.
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Russell's Deathbed Recant?
by StAnn intoday i was talking to someone who is a history professor.
he said that he heard that, on his deathbed, russell admitted that the whole religion was just something that he made up for profit.
i've never heard anything like this and kind of dismissed it.
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Mrs. Fiorini
I have not heard this before. Who was the history professor? Would he be in a position to know this? What are his sources? I would be very interested to hear more.
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ANNUAL MEETING:Not gleening - still fully in the harvest
by still_in74 inbrother at our kh last night reveiwed the annual meeting.. nothing earth shattering but went on about how the gb was really being "transparent" and showing who they are and how they think.
that they are people just like us!
they have apparently been pondering the bs change for "years" in order to provide more time for the essential 'family study night" - so much for gas prices suddenly increasing.
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Mrs. Fiorini
I don't understand this either. All JWs are supposed to be conducting family Bible studies already. Did they conclude that only a small percentage were actually doing so? If that's the case, what makes them think it's going to change now? They change their reasons more often than Sarah Palin explaining why she fired Walt Monegan! I wonder what the real reason is, and why they won't reveal it.
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Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?
by reniaa ini have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.
there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.
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Mrs. Fiorini
This has been an interesting thread and a variety of different perspectives have been presented. I will share a point that might add to the discussion about Christmas. Some people feel that the pagan roots of Christmas make it unacceptable for Christians. Of course, no one should violate their own conscience. However, I came across some interesting information after leaving the WT. There are at least two Psalms that have pagan origins. Psalm 19 and Psalm 29. According to John F. Craghan's book, "Psalms For All Seasons" (The Liturgical Press, 1993), the first part of Psalm 19 "was originally a pagan hymn honoring the Semitic god El...In its Israelite form the hymn naturally praises the God of Israel." He goes on to say regarding Psalm 29, "Scholars generally agree that this psalm was originally a pagan composition extolling the Canaanite god Baal, the weather god who through storms and rains brings fertility to the earth...In appropriating this hymn for her worship, Israel substituted the name of her god Yahweh (translated "the Lord") for that of Baal." That indicates to me that God isn't too worried about things that were once pagan but have now been "Christianized". If not, why did he allow those two Psalms to be in the Bible?
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Has anyone read this book?
by LunaFing ini just started reading this book called: a history of god, the 4000-year quest of judaism, christianity, and islam by karen armstrong.
has anyone read it?
what did you think?
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Mrs. Fiorini
I have not read it, but Mr. Fiorini has and highly recommends it. The best chapter, in his opinion, is the one about the mystics in all the different traditions.
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...Are Jehovah`s Witness`s Christian`s?...
by OUTLAW inchristians recognize "jesus",as the mediator between god and man.....jehovah`s witness`s recognize the "watchtower bible and tract society",as the mediator between god and man.....jesus is out of a job!
!..the wbt$ fired him a long time ago!..lol!
!......................jehovah`s witness`s don`t follow the words of jesus.they follow the words of the wbt$.....are jehovah`s witness`s christian`s?...................................outlaw
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Mrs. Fiorini
They are considered Christian by those who study religions. However, their own literature, as Satanus quotes, shows they do not consider Christ to be the savior for everyone in the same way. While they see themselves as saved by Christ, they believe that they become the savior of their followers. Sounds like the definition of a false Christ to me.